Re: Top 30 Ninja IV (29/6/09-3/10-09)

by Ocean Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:35 am

capping all easy-to-train stats makes ur training harder from now on o.o

by Yokofox88 Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:40 pm

=/ and i've got my gen offense and tai defense capped kyo... so i mean it's not that surprising that people are reaching caps already.

Genjutsu strength: 600000.1
Taijutsu defense: 600000.1

I've got one question to ask everyone though, I tried asking this in the tavern the other day but no one really had any real answer. If stats are more impotent in today's calc, wouldn't that suggest that higher stats means higher exps. So wouldn't a rough way to determine peoples overall average stat would be subtracting there battle exps from there exps, then trying to factor in a rough estimate on how much exps they wasted on being a multi offensive user (sense from what I've seen, multi offensive users got hurt big time with this new calc). So wouldn't that suggest people like Keiton and what not should be a lot lower on the list then they are? I mean, yah trying to judge a player by there exps isn't a bad idea. But when they've fluffed up there exps with things that aren't overly useful now, wouldn't that just make it a hindrances and not an overall advantage?

exps: Keiton has what like 240k won battles, right? Even if most of them come from mission AIs, mission AIs still give exps. So you figure like at least what 100mil of his exps is buffed up by battle wins. Then he's a dual offensive wield (which I'm sure by now he's probably dropped one of his offenses) which you figure any good player using dual offenses has at least 300k right? So 300k * 2 * 100 = 60mil exps at least in offense. So someone like Keiton probably doesn't have the OMGWTF type of stats that you guys are making him out to have. He probably doesn't have stats much higher then a none buffer of 150mil exps. =/ If you guys would like to check my math and actually work out on roughly how much of his exps comes from actually training his stats, that would be cool. After all I believe that would be a better way to judge someone for a list like this, then to simply go, "high exps must mean high stats" and add them with out taking into account there useless exps gained from things they don't really need right now.

by KyoRuedrig Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:02 pm

x3 And I know you are uber, yoko~ Your defenses are amazing... As I remember, you were training them before the new formula came out, and were completely right about your theory.

Also, the fact is that I have only fought Keiton once... And that was because I caught him awake once while raiding. I've never fought him in the new formula, he doesn't go out to raid, he doesn't talk in the tavern, he doesn't come onto this site, AND he doesn't even accept PM's from what I know.

I don't even think he should be on the list for these reasons.

by Ocean Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:10 pm

ppl who spammed 240k ba have been banned alredi some time ago ... 20-40 mil only for 240k missions ... it is just small compared to the exp nowaday ... and assumming more n more ppl capping their general, u can judge them by exp in some measure...

btw, it is not difficult to know one's stat atm. i personally have all top ninja stat in my hands xD

wasnt there all keiton def stats posted ? just compare urs with him ..he got the highest stat in tnr atm

by Yokofox88 Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:17 am

The post you're talking about even states, he "may have" though Ocean. Which let's face it, untill he comes out himself and tells us his stats everything else is rumors and hear say.

Plus I'm not saying he got all that exps from BAs I'm saying missions. You may not gain exps from completely a mission, but you gain exps from defeating an AI in a mission.

Besides like Kyo has stated the dude never really talks to anyone, doesn't ever raid. When you face him you got to catch him off guard. Yet people consider him active enough to even be judged? =/

by yo_noob Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:03 pm

whatever he is...no matter how much he doesnt talk....he is still the first,isnt it?
not much ppl know ur name...but most of the every single player just regards......him as the top player! ^^
lol....no offense to anyone! ^^
HE ROCKS...and a good gamer! ^^ Very Happy

by KyoRuedrig Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:12 pm

How do you have a right to say that he rocks...? o.O; If not for the top exp list, you wouldn't even know him~ x333

Go to Shroud's tavern and ask if anyone knows KyoRuedrig at ANY time of the day. Someone will speak up. Amazing for someone not even on the exp list... >.>;

The people that are on the top list underneath him I have actually spoken to, and know that they play. In fact, I know half of them by talking to them on a daily basis. They are active, sometimes raid, and accept spars. Keiton still has yet to accept any spar that I've sent him, or answer any PM's, or raid. Seriously~ >.>; Such power means NOTHING if you don't even use it for anything. He is basically just the same as every little AS out there. No one really even knows him. What happens when he caps stats? Will he go back to missions to keep his exp going higher? For all we know, he'll cap his stats, stop playing, and sell his account to the highest bidder.

by Yokofox88 Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:47 pm

Kyo's partly right, if he doesn't fight/spar/raid against anyone unless they're lucky enough to sneak attack him WHEN he's online (that short little window of like 2 minutes). For all we know he could simply be fluffing up his exps so that he can become more inactive. Not many raiders are willing to risk attacking someone with the highest exps in the village, much less the game.

Besides he wouldn't be known, no one would even care about him if it wasn't for the fact that he has such HUGE exps, most of which comes from his battles.

by ToA as G Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:41 pm

He replied my PM once or twice in the past..

you have found the answer by yourself, yoko:

Which let's face it, untill he comes out himself and tells us his stats everything else is rumors and hear say.

by KyoRuedrig Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:05 am

The point that I'm trying to make ToA, is that even if you have only talked to him once or twice, he could definitely sell his account, and NO ONE would know the difference.

by lol_noob Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:55 am

the nationality of yo_noob, place ur bets guys? xD

theres a difference between having high stats an being a good player, keiton ranks about 8th behind...

anyone good with a fire jutsu? ;P judge on who beats who, nothing else, thats all that matters.

unless keiton beats ocean, does he?? or marisa? or zankoku? hes far from top

by ToA as G Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:39 pm

if there is owner change, we will expect a change in Keiton's behaviour too.. lol
*cough*ninjaegg*cough*

by yo_noob Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:47 pm

i dunno why he doesnt reply ur pms or spar with u guys...
i am getting honest here...he did spar me many times....and we talked alot in pm...i mean "alot"...and dun think i am keiton himself speaking for his behalf here...
and he is a good gamer like ToA and Ocean, helping out with my training alot in the past....

and to Kyo..no offense dude...maybe he aint a typo like u to get known by many ppl in the tavern...

what is the point in talking alot in tavern if it z always annoyed by those F***ing mods...getting permanent tavern banned like meteoric and some others??

lol...anyway...keiton aint the top player bcoz of his bl...but a good gamer in tnr! ^^
NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE! ^^ clown

by KyoRuedrig Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:36 am

o.o; What's a 'Typo'

No seriously, last I checked a Typo was a spelling error.. >.>;

by ToA as G Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:45 am

@kyo
Maybe he/she means Hypo

seriously, dont too much talking in tavern..
Most of them are hallucinator, dreamer,hypo, and idiots

If you want something, go pm someone expert or go to forum
But if you just want fun, tavern is ok

by KyoRuedrig Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:04 am

x.x; And whats a Hypo? Dx

by Ramen Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:52 am

KyoRuedrig wrote:x.x; And whats a Hypo? Dx

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hypo

I didn't know that either ._.

by KyoRuedrig Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:58 am

lmao~! x3 I looked it up also there... >.>;;

So you think that they are calling me a person who thinks he is popular...? x.x;;;

Quite honestly, I think he ironically made a typo and meant to say 'type'

by .... Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:08 am

Code:: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrite

by lol_noob Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:52 pm

by KyoRuedrig Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:59 am

I've just become the best or second best defensive player in the game~ x333

When people call for help, I join and just use DBG, and they start hitting only like 10k while focusing on the other person~ x333

by Ratix2 Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:06 am

Spoiler:

For somebody who is saying he has a lot of weapon defense o-o and is good against weapon users, you failed o.o especially considering my offense is still at the old cap

by Ocean Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:21 am

350k nin def + overpower AOE (with boost) ?

by Ratix2 Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:41 pm

Ninjutsu defense is about accurate o-o

I dunno what is happening with FS

by Yokofox88 Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:33 am

i heard SH lost it's fire based element. just wondering if we should set up a memorial for Marisa's god like SH and the fact we may never see it again?

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